Again, apologies for not blogging more. I’m cranking hard to get Seenstr’s Guide to Seduction: Level One done and available for everyone.
The level one eBook is turning into a pretty deep piece of work. It covers pretty much every angle of the model, plus a couple bonus sections (at-work pickup, quick closing, etc). There will also be some more bonus material included with the eBook but which will be made available a week or so after the guide becomes available. These will include some field reports, openers, negs and other “traditional” stuff, although as you’ll see reading the book, I reveal a much more powerful pickup technique than most people are expecting. Negs and canned openers are pretty much back-pocket tools in the Seenstr method, not the main focus.
We’ve also been field testing the technique pretty heavily — not just with us men, but women as well. That’s right, the Seenstr method is even used by women to meet women. For those who have bought Seenstr’s Guide to Threesomes, you may want to check this one out as well, because your woman #1 can benefit from understanding the Projecting Self-Image concept when securing woman #2.
If you’ve been reading this blog, you know I advocate natural game. The Seenstr Method is, in essense, a combination of approach anxiety destruction and inner game construction, and the result is a new you, projecting WANTED instead of DESPERATE. We don’t rely on canned material anymore, and we don’t run the risk of being called out as a PUA.
Stay tuned.
Reader space writes:
So what is so hard about picking up a girl at work? As long as she isn’t a stripper or really busy, wouldn’t it be the same as a normal pick up? For example if she was a waitress or worked at a retail store what would you do different?
Well your disqualifiers are pretty much the point. That is to say, when you ask what if she isn’t really busy, then it isn’t really a work pickup, is it? Sure, there are women who are paid to stand around and do nothing. But how common is that? If you encounter a beautiful woman at her place of employment, more than likely you are going to have to deal with the following obstacles:
- She has a job to do, and doing that job is her main focus.
- She has a boss who is paying her to work, not stand around and be entertained by you for an hour, and if he’s there, she will blow you off quickly lest she find herself jobless.
- Her job is more important than some stranger asking her opinion about _____.
- There may be some policy in place about meeting people at work, or she may have an internal policy about meeting people at work.
- Any men she works with have probably been fighting for her attention for quite a while now, and will do a LOT of work to tear down your value, either in front of your face (bad), or in the back, where you can’t defend yourself (worse).
A quick point about #4: beautiful girls get hit on at work all the time. They don’t always reject those suitors — some of them have game after all. That means, if she’s had the job long enough, there are at least 2-3 guys she’s met at work, dated, and who turned out to be dipshits. 99% of the time, the guys in a girl’s past are regarded as trash once the relationship ends. And women tend to love categorization (which is part of the reason they love astrology). If the last three guys she met at work were “bad guys,” you can be sure that she will associate every guy after them as “bad guys,” if they hit on her at work.
So we’ve got five obstacles. That’s a lot of obstacles. Here’s another one: you have very limited time to put your thing down.
Does she work at a coffee house?
You: “Large mocha, please”
Her: “$3.50 please”
You: “Here you go, say, can I get your opinion about something?”
Her: “Next!”
Hmm, yeah, not so good. The financial transaction is not amenable to pickup. Even if the place is slow, and you are the only one in line, she has other things to do.
The work pickup is hard, but it is definitely possible. I met my current LTR at her work, and several girls prior (and since). I mastered the work pickup as a challenge, because the rule around my roost was “never pickup a girl at work.” I laughed, and set about to learn how it’s done.
Now, it is far too complicated to completely lay out in a blog post, but I will give you the basics. The rest is an entire chapter in my Guide to Seduction ebook (which should be ready soon).
So here are the two most important things:
- Don’t try to do it all in one day.
- When she gets distracted, bail to preserve your value.
Here’s the deal, guys. A successful pickup requires a certain amount of time. If you only have a couple minutes (the transaction period), but your particular flavor of game requires, say, 30 minutes, then you need to spread it out over several visits. You know where she works, she isn’t going anywhere. Don’t be a stalker, just begin to frequent her place of employment. Is she a barista? Boom. Now you know where you’re getting your coffee. And you’ll probably want to double or triple your coffee intake, as well. Become a regular.
The first couple transactions give you just about enough time to smile, drop a compliment (on something she’s wearing, not on her physical beauty), or ask if she goes to the local university, lake, beach, or whatever. Just drop an anchor in, nothing serious. And then bail.
After that, you should know her name. Don’t ask, dummy. It’s on her nametag. Start referring to her by name. After twice, she’ll ask you yours. Why? Because it is discomforting when someone knows more about you than you know about them. She’ll ask. In the event she doesn’t, offer it. Don’t say “by the way, I’m….” Be clever.
You: “Thank you, Beth”
Her: “You’re welcome.”
You: “No, I’m Seenstr, actually.”
Smooth.
Once you’ve got familiarity (you know each other’s names), you should be about 15 minutes into the pickup, and we might be talking about 5 visits here at this point. Now, we can pick a slow moment, when there isn’t a lot of people in the place, and start working our magic. We have comfort, now we can move to seduction.
What about the second point, bailing to preserve value? Easy. Now we’re at the point of conversation. We know each other’s names, we start a small chat about something interesting, and…. the phone rings. Or her boss calls her over. Or another customer comes in.
What do we do?
BAIL.
If you stand there like a moron while she tends to whatever business needs tending to, you will obliterate your social value right there on the spot. 5-10 visits, 5-10 comfort building sessions, possibly 2-3 attraction routines, and you are lower than shit. DO NOT STAND THERE. This should be second nature, instinct. You MUST walk away when you lose focus. And never take it personally.
Once enough comfort has been established, you can use one of the next visits to do a quick invitation to another venue.
Here’s an easy one. Most places — stores, restaurants, coffee houses, etc — have music playing. Always know what is happening in your town. Always know when, where and what about upcoming social gatherings.
If she works there, she probably likes the music. Or at least can stand it. Or at the very least, has developed a curiosity about it. If the band playing has a show coming up, invite her. If some other band of the same genre has a show coming up, invite her.
You: “Hey, have you heard of _____?”
Her: “No, who’s that?”
You: “They sound kind of like..” (pointing up)
Her: “Oh really, are they good?”
You: “Yeah, they’re playing this Saturday, are you going?”
Her: “No.”
You: “I’m getting tickets tonight, want to go?”
Boom. In.
