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Field Report: 09/08/2007

September 9th, 2007 · 3 Comments

As promised, here’s the field report from last night, wherein Seenstr hit the scene with an HB10 on his arm, and a goal of arranging a threesome.  Our cascade of goals was first to find ourselves in a threesome by night’s end.  Failing that, to set up a threesome for a later date.  And failing that, to at least acquire a couple numbers of prospects which may be arrangeable at a later date.

In the interest of full disclosure, I should point out that the HB10 on my arm and I have engaged in several threesomes already, and she is a pretty accomplished wing.  It’s making me laugh to myself right now, but I really don’t have an accurate count — I’m guessing at least 5 times we’ve done this together?  Somewhere around that number — just with this particular girl.

Anyways, for variety, I decided to pick a spot I’ve never been to — a joint in Marina Del Rey which — allegedly — is a great pickup spot.  In actuality, it was what me and my buddies would refer to as a wrinkle ranch back in my younger years.

Nothing wrong with that!  In fact, a place populated with single (or adventurous married) women in their 30s and 40s is ideal for finding a third.  There is a myth that women hit a sexual peak in their 30s or 40s, but that myth is utter crap.  In reality, women hit their peak at the same time we do — what actually happens is that by the time they hit 35, they’ve had a string of idiotic relationships, marriages, etc, and find themselves tired of the facade.  If they are single and in their 30s, they’ve likely realized that traditional female values have failed to make them happy, and they are consequently ready to let loose.

In Los Angeles, at least, 30-40 doesn’t mean what it means in the midwest.  I’ve seen women in their late 40s that look a hundred times better than most girls I’ve seen in their early 20s.  It’s crazy.  Add to that the adventurous spirit, and you now know why I advise a lot of newbies to aim a little higher, age wise.

At any rate, the MDR spot had maybe 2-3 decent prospects, one in the 30+ range, and two around 20-22 or so.  The 30-year-old was maybe a 7, and the 20s were both 8s, easily interchangable.

The problem with the 20s were that they were together.  Worse, they were in a large group of 6.  Normally, this doesn’t pose a problem for pickup, and indeed it doesn’t pose a problem for threesome game either, provided you don’t intend to F-Close that night! Experienced PUAs already know that one of the keys to a same-night F-Close is appeasing the friends, especially the lower value females of the group.  The same applies to threesome game, only you also need to be discrete.  I can swoop in on a girl and make off with her that night, as long as I appease the friends, but how am I going to pull that off when the goal is to bring her back to an orgy?  This is the moment where the target’s circle leaps into protect mode.  We just have to deal with female sexual perception as it is, whether we like it or not.

So the best way to handle this scenario is to simply number-close and arrange a more intimate moment later.  We can still check for clues that the girl will be open to it during the initial exchange.  We do this by focusing on the attraction — if any — building between your wing and the target.

In our case, only one of the girls was responding to my wing, so we switched focus on her.  Luckily, she was the better looking of the two (although only slightly), and by far the most intelligent.  If you read my guide to threesomes, you’ll remember that I advised you to seek out highly intelligent women, because they are more likely to be open to alternative experiences than an idiot.  The simple reason is that stupid women are more driven by instinct — i.e. mating, nesting, and so on.  Intelligent women know that there is plenty of time in an 80 year lifespan for nesting, but far less time for accumulating exciting sexual experiences.

We #-Closed the HB8 and moved on to the 30-something.  Quite a shocker here.  She was definitely looking for a 1-on-1 relationship — most likely yet another unfulfilling  relationship to stack on her pile of disappointment.  We picked up on this pretty quickly by her repeated insistence on knowing who my wing and I were to each other.  “How do you two know each other?  Are you guys together?  Did you ever date?  You guys would make a cute couple”   And so on.  Dead giveaway that she wasn’t quite able to comprehend anything outside of the standard male/female dynamic.

We moved on.

Next up was a house party.  Like all house parties, this one was overpopulated with men, but, on the plus side, and again like all house parties, the men were all shitface drunk by the time we arrived, and the women were thoroughly disgusted.  Arriving at this particular moment is great for any game, especially if you are well dressed and well behaved.  Drunken men are in the process of demonstrating extremely low value, not only by virtue of their drunken behavior, but due to the exposure of the fact that they can’t hold their liquor.  A drunken male cannot protect a female.  Attraction switches start turning off right and left.

As a side note, this is, incidentally, why drunk men never wake up next to beautiful women — instead, they wake up next to horrid hags.  Only a complete hambeast would go home with a drunkard.

We chatted up a couple girls, all in their early 20s, and #-Closed a few of them.  Nothing particularly special.

And then a girl that I had come close to wrangling into a threesome about 6 months ago came up to us, and was being extremely friendly.  Now listen carefully: sometimes the way to arrange a threesome is not to be direct with a pickup-then-offer routine, but to be more indirect, for example talking about past experiences very matter-of-factly and then saying goodbye, without ever inviting the target in.  What this does is two things: it alerts the target to your lifestyle, and it plants the seed in her mind.  If you are pretty sure that she won’t immediately go for it, sometimes simply planting the seed can be enough.  As I advise in the eBook, patience is the key to threesome closure.  Patience patience patience!  And here was a case of patience paying off.  While I had originally invited her directly, when she balked I backed off immediately, and never brought it up again.  Clearly, after 6 months, the seed had grown.

This girl is a go for next weekend.

So overall we finished with 3 numbers and an arrangement for next weekend.  We didn’t arrange any same-night action, but that’s ok.  Same-night is incredibly difficult to pull off.

We didn’t want to end the night empty handed, so my HB10 called a friend of hers, HB8, and invited her over.  By that point, I was pretty exhausted, so I offered another night during the week.  This was a good thing, because the girl now has a couple days to build up anticipation of the event.  More importantly, though, this shows the payoff of patience again.  Because I am never one to grab everything I can get (note from the eBook — be patient and don’t be grabby), I have options now whenever I need them.  The great thing about threesome game, or any game for that matter, is that the more you play it, the easier it gets.  Eventually, you have options all over the place, which makes your confidence, and your projected value, go through the roof.

Alright guys, that’s it for this weekend.  Good luck out there!

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3 responses so far ↓

  • 1 James // Sep 10, 2007 at 12:26 pm

    Wow, I’ve read my way through your blog and you are my personal hero. If I wan’t married, I would consider myself a disciple.

  • 2 seenstr // Sep 10, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    Ah! Don’t say that James! Part of the Hacking Human Nature concept is living a good, satisfying life, even if — and after — you get married.

    We cover a lot of “pickup” topics here, but by no means do we stop there. Being a happy man — or woman — does not end at marriage. Nothing that you ever wanted to do with your life should end simply because you decided to go down a particular “traditional” path. The decisions we make in life should bring us pleasure, not regret.

    I spend a good deal of my time coaching married men — and couples — on how to fulfill each other’s needs, sexually and otherwise. My Guide to Threesomes, in fact, is full of information about arranging exciting sexual adventures within a marriage.

    Keep reading, James. We’ll get to the other material soon!

  • 3 James // Sep 11, 2007 at 5:39 am

    Thank you sir, this is fascinating. In no way would I ever trade my current life but do live a little bit through my single friends. While I am a faithful guy, I have been taking some of your advice and applying it when flirting. Even when flirting, it is nice to have a bit of a gameplan. A plan provides confidence and I’m amazed that more people haven’t picke up on this stuff.

    Keep up the good work and I look forward to your review of this week’s PUA on VH1.

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